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After Elena turned her humanity off she never really felt like the same character, even after she turned it back on. It just felt like she had a lot more depth in seasons 1-4. Seasons 5-6 she just felt like such a bland character

Still waiting for part 2

I always got creepy vibes from Matt Davis

Can you do analysis on SATC characters. Especially Big and Carrie’s relationship.

Halloween train: wilden attacked spencer and Mona gropped Hannah. Bell Tower: Alison pushed Ian, Ian was not dead and left was killed by A at the time. Cinema: Aria whispered my dad doesn't like you All mentioned in the show just briefly

truthfully shay is a bad actor and it effected the character of emily

would you ever review Teen Wolf?

Also I can never support Delena. Damon raped Caroline and would have killed her, snapped Jeremy’s neck he didn’t know the ring would bring him back, and almost killed Bonnie multiple times. I don’t find Elena a great person because who would like someone who did that

TVD was plagued by misogyny and racism which ruined the show. If it had better writers and frankly Elena in the books is better

I think Michelle was very shitty in s2 but as a 17 year old , we can cut her some slack. She always based her self worth on being “shaggable” if that’s even a word, I think she uses it in one episode to describe himself, but she does love Tony I feel because we see her pining for him.

If Bonnie and Damon had fallen in love, it would’ve created a great storyline because maybe they would’ve struggle with some guilt being Elena’s love and best friend. It would’ve been really interesting.

honestly i have a love-hate relationship with elena. some people hate her cause she's a supposed 'crybaby' and she makes everything about herself. like noo 🤨?? she doesn't make everything about herself, its everyone around her that makes her seem like she some goddess that needs 24/7 protection. her crying alot is valid cause she is literally 17 years old, a child, and she lost so many people in her life. not to mention that in the beginning she was one of the few normal people without any supernatural powers(besides the fact she's a doppelganger) and has to deal with constant life threatening situations. she keeps acting like she can do things and be useful while in reality she really isn't and sometimes gets in the way. like she can't stay alone for one second and she needs to involved. it was like she had FOMO or something 💀💀 i get that she needs to be involved in scenes cause she's the mc but she served sometimes no purpose at all. the writers didn't know what to do with her in some situations and it was obvious. i will however admit that she did help on some occasions and was useful but it was a handful of times. the only good thing she was for playing bait or some distraction or idk i can't really remember much. everyone around her needs to get over her and realize that she really isn't all that. she's much like katherine but down-plays how horrible she can be and acts like she wasn't the main reason of the thousands of vampires death with the whole kol thing. she can get quite annoying too... and she's a terrible friend who the hell dates their best friend abuser and her brother's actual murderer??? people say its in the past and everyone has forgive damon for that so we should forget about that. like if damon were ugly no one would say that. stefan and klaus may have killed people and done even more terrible things but as far as my knowledge they didn't sexual assault anyone like damon has. elena forgave damon a bit too easily and let's him get away with alot of bad things. but it is fiction so i guess none of that really matters. that being said she didn't deserve any of the things that happened to her. i realized i do sorta love her after her being gone in the later seasons. i've gotten so used to her nonsense it was very weird without but sorta refreshing cause i needed a break from her. elena can be quite kind, selfless and she loves her family and friends and will do literally anything for them. i think the reasons why elena was portrayad this way is because of the writers didn't want her to be this perfect girl and have natural flaws but they went about it the wrong way. like every other character in the show they're not perfect and can be annoying in their own way. elena does deserve some hate but what she deserves more is therapy and finally heal from all her trauma

SERNEA YOU SLAY SO HARD

"I think you found a way to get out of bed this morning, and that makes you the strongest person i know"-Alaric Saltzman to Elena Gilbert

I wouldn't even say she's that selfish, I'd say she's self-centered. Whenever anything happens, she immediately assumes it's somehow about her or her fault, but that's kind of understandable too, when you take into account what has happened to her in the early seasons. Her parents died because she'd asked them to pick her up from a party, and because Stefan saved her instead of them (and we know her father could've survived, he was still conscious). It isn't her fault but she probably has some survivor's guilt. Elena was the reason Katherine and Klaus came to Mystic Falls. Katherine came back because she wanted to trade Elena for her freedom. This resulted in Caroline being turned into a vampire, and Tyler's werewolf curse being triggered. Klaus came back literally just because of Elena, because he needed her to break his curse. This resulted in another one of Elena's family members, Jenna, dying. In the very beginning of the show, we know that Stefan stayed in Mystic Falls, again, because of Elena, because he wanted to know her, and then Damon followed and killed a bunch of people. None of that was Elena's fault but people keep being low-key obsessed with her or wanting her for their own reasons. I mean, I'm not really surprised that after all that she got paranoid and started assuming that everything was about her

Can't lie, I'm not Elena's biggest fan but I think that's mostly because of her dynamic with the Salvatores. Their habit of bulldozing right over her just because they think they know best doesn't get nearly enough pushback, which is annoying because we know that Elena is more than capable of making herself heard. Maybe if they didn't tend to make everything worse, it wouldnt bother me so much but, then again, I'm a hardcore Salvatore hater so maybe not...

Damon and Stefan were never really that developp after season 3. Stefan being reducing to the hero who is somehow, because of Julie Plec obssession for Damon, responsable for everything that Damon does and Damon being this on-off villain-hero that just go kill someone when Elena piss him off (something that Ian was tired of ). They are just loved because the actors are charming but the writing is poorly handled. Klaus developpement tho is fantastic

What a lovely name for a girl

Absolute Slay moment

she is right though, i wouldn't call my self a bad person necessarily because i do care about how people feel but i can still be very judgmental and talk about people behind their backs. even decent people aren't angels

Karoline hooked up with klaus…she didn’t have a relationship with him despite being strongly attracted to him. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I still dislike Elena…still selfish and whiny and self righteous 🤢

Is it possible that elena distant direct descendants from Katherine or elena may have come from Katherine parents siblings?

My sister is currently watching this show after I made her watch the reboot but now I feel like I trapped her cuz She wants me to rewatch with her but I refuse to watch 80% filler 20% ridiculous plot/plot holes. It’s so nostalgic still love the memories but watching now 9 years later as an adult the Aria/Ezra thing is WILDDDDDD. The adult/ child relationships were crazy to watch knowing the writers knew who the target audience was.

Boonie was always my comfor character. But everyone using her always broke my heart.

might be in the minority here among the fandom but i have NEVER ever hated elena 😭 like, if i can love both katherine and kai, for example. then i sure can love elena too

my issue with Elena isn’t her flaws but the fact that they’re never acknowledged. everyone is flawed but they’re reprimanded. she is selfish and a bad friend but everyone claims otherwise and bc of this she acts above everyone else. the other characters do bad things, it’s acknowledged, and (usually) atoned for but Elena gets away with selfish deeds while being characterized as the victim

Im A Bonnie Fangirl!😢😮🥰🖥💕

About the Radley being turned into a hotel, there’s an old “benevolent asylum” in my hometown that was turned into a luxury spa named “The Benev” 💀💀

My biggest problem with Elena is her hypocrisy. Elena almost ALWAYS makes excuses and denies her wrongdoings. My problem with Elena is not her doing bad things but the writers insisting that she’s “such a good person” and “can do no wrong.” If the writers actually embraced Elena being a flawed character and making bad decisions I think she would’ve been a more likable character A small comparison to Katherine- Katherine is a very loved character even though objectively she is a very terrible person. Katherine typically owns up to her evil deeds bc she knows she's a bad person and has done terrible things so she embraces it.

I’m not sure I’d say it wasn’t true she didn’t love Damon in that moment because it’s possible to know something and continue lying to yourself and everyone in your life. I almost feel like the part where it turns out she met Damon first felt a little more retconned if anything

Most of the hate she gets is for season 3 when she daggered Rebekah, killed, Kol and Finn, and lied to Elijah which makes no sense since the originals terrorized her. As for the cheating a Stefan, someone pointed out that Damon compelled Elena to believe she is too good for hom that's why she never acknowledged her feelings until she became a vampire.

100% agree that the male characters were much more richly written than the female characters on this show.

yall want complex characters until they’re complex

What kills me is when people on Reddit complain she’s a cry baby and weak. She lost her entire family in traumatic ways- she’s allowed to cry. And she also stabbed herself in the stomach to save her friends with Elijah, sacrificed herself in a ritual (it wasn’t her fault her friends kept interfering- she was okay with sacrificing herself), started to slit her own throat to test Ric, and much more all while HUMAN. People don’t give her enough credit for all she did as a human with no powers

I never really hated Elena or thought she was a bad person, I just thought the writing surrounding her character was so annoying. Even more so now. The trope of the "perfect female character" has just aged so badly, mostly because it's typically a misogynistic trope. It's also especially annoying because these characters often do questionable things/have very obvious character flaws but it's never acknowledged in the show which makes it frustrating for the audience to watch. It's also boring.

thats what it is. shes the main character but didnt feel like one but also was the focus. so everything that i hated about her was them not giving her depth. we are constantly told she compassionate and ridden with grief but who is she?

Bonnie constantly sacrificing herself and dying so that Jeremy won’t die and Elena won’t lose a brother her last family is what’s everything wrong with the writers writing about Elena and people around her. And why they don’t like her. Totally justifiable. Everyone protecting elena and her feelings and everything being about her LIKE EVERYTHING is absurd snd not realistic and unfair. Bonnie went thru A LOT and she wasn’t treated special even though she is the one who had actual magical powers??!!!!! Her character sucks.

The same things you listed to why Elena is selfless other characters did more selfless acts. It’s not sexism Damon never said he was a good guy we as the viewers are not meant to see him as a good guy But Elena it’s shoved down our throats that’s she’s a good girl that’s the difference.. we don’t overlook her trauma we don’t bring it up because the show never lets us forget it. We watch Bonnie, Caroline, Tyler etc go through Trauma every season their trauma is overlooked. Damn Jeremy lost his parents too. He lost his Aunt & Uncle too! All of his girlfriends died!! his trauma is overlooked. This video is giving white guilt. You’re literally grasping for straws trying to defend her

14:18 "weirdly obsessed with her" - shows a picture that includes Elena's brother, her step-uncle & a guy who doesn't actually hook up with her lol

i liked elena a lot when i started watching the show and that’s all because of Nina. But i completely agree the reason why the fans didn’t like her. First main characters are always getting shit on especially the right chosen one, because fans hate on main characters especially when they are in comparison with other characters. Like Elena with Caroline and Stefan with Damon. Fans hate when the writers try to shove it in down our throats that this character is better then this one and ofc we are gonna feel for the characters that are more insecure like Care and Damon. That’s one. So then we have two gorgeous brothers in love with her and trying to keep her alive and would burn the world for her which sometimes included elena‘s friends. So ofc everyone is annoyed and jealous of that because we have Bonnie and Caroline in the other hand too. And Caroline and Bonnie went trhough shit but sometimes alone BONNIE especially even more, but she didn’t have Stefan and Damon or others to be there for her and baby her and care for her. Her pain and her suffering went under the rug, she wasn’t allowed to have feelings and to retaliate when they did they treated her as a villain and annoying. But Elena is treated as this breakable object that we should protect constantly and she was allowed to have feelings of not even being able to choose a brother in s3 and they went along with it. Everything was about her and yeah she is the main character but everyone tried to save her and her problems so that she can be okay and that’s fucling annoying bc bonnie didn’t have that support system and sometimes caroline too. And that’s the writers being obsessed with Elena and Nina. They tried soooo much to insert her everywhere even when she wasn’t in this show, they tried so hard to make her as this special amazing person when she is just okay and should have been treated like that. Bc bonnie or caroline are much better characters or the same as elena so it’s just ridiculous to put her at this crazy pedestal and that’s what’s annoying. She was just a normal girl same as caroline and bonnie and yet she was treated as this amazing special girl that everyone loves and would sacrifice themselves for her and it’s only about her pain and her loss and her feelings and how special she is and yes she is a crybaby and a damsel in distress that everyone is saving whether emotionally or physically. That’s annoying. I hated s5 but i liked that they inserted the doppelgänger storyline of elena and stefan being destined to fall in love and how that started everything to the point of elena and stefan falling in love in s1 which starts everything. So it makes her a little grounded that she wasn’t that special. And i liked that she fell for Damon which is something not planned. I like that stroyline. And i didn’t like that Elena fell off and from s5 on she wasn’t treated as a heroine of the story and main character but rather just damon‘s girlfriend and it was all about their relationship drama. This is the part i didn’t like. But at the same time i liked that she started messin up and it felt more normal, she wasn’t treated as that special special character anymore, not in the same way anyway, but then she started being very annoying and also worse so it’s the same circle. She also was being worse then before but also better. And Katherine is the better one because she had NO ONE to save her and baby her and sacrifice themselves for her(apart from some guys, but she manipulated them and accept it not like it was with elena as if she is that special and amazing and that’s just the way it is). Even Klaus was a manchild but Katherine‘s family was killed, and she had to run for so long and she saved herself countless times and didn’t have a family like Klaus or friends and people like elena to save them. And she still was treated bad in comparison with Elena but people still like Kath more bc she is the real one. And she is inspiring tbh. So that’s why people don’t like Elena. She was treated special, everything was abt her and her feelings and everyone sacrificeing themselves for her and it was annoying when you have other characters like kath bonnie caroline who didn’t get the same grace. But i personally liked Elena being easy going and she is just cute and likes having fun and has relationship problems with damon in s5 and that felt a little realistic but still it was a downfall of her character.

Klaus didn't r@pe elena for weeks, and Klaus and Caroline never were in a relationship...especially in front of anyone?!

It’s hard to say because I really love human Elena but I can’t stand her once she becomes a vampire

In conclusion: The vampire diaries writers had no idea what to do with their characters, I don't like Elena but she had potential

she should do book vs tv show. lol tv show elena is wayyy better

My biggest issue with Elena is how everyone was willing to die for her. I get wanting to save your friend, but to die for your friend? that’s way too much. I get Damon and stefan but not anyone else. That and her personality was generic. Which, as I properly watch the show I don’t hate her as much as I did when ive only seen glimpses of it. But she’s still not a character I can say I liked. I don’t hate her anymore, and can admit she’s a pretty okay character. But I’m in season 4 so that could change

Elena has the anxious/dissociative attachment style. Maybe Borderline personality mixed in. The trauma and loss she went through, mixed with the almost flip-flopping of her actions / emotions and morals is so clear!! I suppose it’s a matter of personal perspective but I don’t think the writers intended on doing that but it makes sense in retrospect. Just food for thought 😂

I am a elena gilbert defender

Katherine, Rebekah, & Caroline still sweeped the floor with her

I’m sorry but I actually really enjoyed elena , I don’t get why ppl hated on her , like she didn’t ask to be the doppelgänger and all the chaos that fallowed, ppl say she’s annoying but like what young teen isn’t, yes she’s obviously going to make mistakes and not have a clear vision on things she young and shes sone one that has suffered a lot of loss , yes she can be a but ungrateful, annoying, and sometimes a bit unlikable but I still very much enjoyed her character and a good lead